Will there be NVME booting EFI for 2010+ Mac Pro on High Sierra? For the love of all that's good and holy, someone please answer. • We know Apple has officially added native NVME support AFTER booting. • However I could find no posts saying whether or not someone has actually tested booting off of NVME yet. • In the history of the Mac, there has NEVER been, AFAIK, any type of officially supported internal drive where booting was impossible.
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• They supposedly would need to update the EFI firmware to support APFS booting, but it's unsurprising if there's not a 'beta' of such firmware. • If they're going to do it, why wouldn't they just say so now? EDIT: The APFS FAQ on developer.apple.com states.
APFS support for Mid 2012 Mac Pro will be included in an upcoming seed. Perhaps this is a typo and they meant to say '5,1 Mac Pro'? If so then it sounds like a good sign as far as APFS is concerned. Otherwise, this latest bit is extremely confusing, because I was not aware of any differences between the 2010 and 2012 Mac Pros that could affect APFS support. They both have the same EFI firmware as far as I know. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Since we imagine surely adding APFS support requires flashing the EFI firmware, can anyone think of a reason why Apple would not also add boot strings for NVME booting?
Click to expand.OK, so I probably should just go with a SATA SSD in the ODD bay to get more GB/$ for my boot drive? And then put a PCI card with M.2 NVMe to hold my samples and DAW projects, video projects etc.? I can live with that if so. I just don't know how Apple avoids a firmware update for 5,1 Mac Pro here though. Are they gonna shut cMP out of APFS boot support also? If they do a firmware update, why not add NVMe and USB 3 booting while they're at it?
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I don't blame anyone for thinking it's unlikely, given Apple's crappy abandonment of pros and lackluster commitment to cMP firmware updates. However I keep holding out hope they will eventually change. Their recent admitting that nMP was a mistake gave me a sign my hope might not be entirely delusional. Maybe they see that we will be more likely to buy the next Mac Pro if they show more than just a 4-year commitment to keeping a Mac's firmware current and able to work with current industry standards. One can always hope. On the good side, they can add functions by updating the firmware. On the other side, I am a bit worry that they may add some more extra artificial limitation by updating the firmware.
Limit us to use PC GPU. I am not sure if it's possible, hopefully not. However, I assume that they can change the Mac Pro's firmware to make the GPU's Mac EFI become 'rubbish'. I am not sure if they can include the 5770, 5870, 7950, 680's Mac EFI in the firmware.
And then disable the EFI on the graphic card. (I am not 100% sure, but seems the 6,1's GPU EFI is actually stored in the firmware). Since they only mention about provide firmware update for 2012 Mac Pro.
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And only these 4 GPU are officially supported on this Mac Pro. They may simply make an firmware update that contain these 4 GPUs EFI, and then kill all flashed card. If that really happen, than it's a big bad news to us. We can't use a flashed Nvidia card to install driver or access recovery partition, etc. Which is not good.
Since the 5,1 never shipped with GT120. They don't even need to make it support the GT120. Which means we can't even install a slot power only card to get the boot screen.
Again, I think the chance of having this 'big' firmware update is low. However, if Apple really give us a new firmware, anything can happen. That's Apple, very unpredictable (on this kind of matter).
At some point Classic Mac Pro users (I am one) need to be a bit more realistic in their expectations. I think it is awesome we can do what we can currently with them, but we also need to remember that the last one of these was sold new 5 years ago. These are old now and will only get older. In my case I really only expect enough life out of my Mac Pro to last me until this new modular machine comes out.
If this Modular machine that is coming proves to be a fantastically viable replacement for our Classic Mac Pro's I really think those of us who can should really look at transitioning into whatever this New Mac Pro will be. For now I am going to upgrade my cMP as much as I can within its limitations. At some point Classic Mac Pro users (I am one) need to be a bit more realistic in their expectations.